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he's going to get re-elected house speaker and not have the authority to do the job he's been given. john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good sense, richard, of how many republicans or maybe democrats for that matter, aren't so worried about going over the fiscal cliff at this point? >> i don't actually buy this argument that people are happy going over the fiscal cliff. they can see how damaging it is politically. they also are looking forward to the next fight about the debt ceiling, which is going to be even more damaging. so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they'r
he's going to get re-elected house speaker and not have the authority to do the job he's been given. john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good...
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boehner's republicans won an election too. he was elected president, not prime minister. he can't dictate to the house the way he would in england. >> as we look forward here, i heard you mention the debt commission and that's come up a couple times, that we've been down this road before with congress kind of bringing us to the brink but they always do a back deal. that has a longer lasting effect on the economy because every time we go through this, the markets react. people pull back. talk to me a little bit about what's forecasted for tuesday? we're get to hit the debt ceiling. >> a perfect storm. >> yes, but maybe it's one we need to endure so we can straighten our country out. if we go along with the president we have to reckon with the fact entitlement spending, about $650 billion or so, between now and the end of the decade, it will be up over a trillion per year. so we are really headed for a greek situation. by giving the president his way tonight, republicans will be bequeathing to his successor the kind of mess the greek president and italian prime minister are
boehner's republicans won an election too. he was elected president, not prime minister. he can't dictate to the house the way he would in england. >> as we look forward here, i heard you mention the debt commission and that's come up a couple times, that we've been down this road before with congress kind of bringing us to the brink but they always do a back deal. that has a longer lasting effect on the economy because every time we go through this, the markets react. people pull back....
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merkel has an election coming up soon. i don't think you'll see germany doing a lot of bailing out the rest of europe. and europe is the number one global concern to this day. if europe doesn't do well, the rest of the world economy is going to suffer. >> gregg: what about japan? is it insolvent already? >> yeah. a lot of people believe so. that will be a big story in 2014. just recently japan announced that they are going to start printed ago lot of money and last week, you saw the yen drop in value 15% which means that, if what we are company exporting to japan that just hurts our sales quite a bit because the value of their yen is less. so not able to buy as many products which is then, gregg, to hurt our stock market because a lot of our growth comes outside our borders of the united states. this is is a problem that goes directly to nks 401-k plan. >> then there is china which is the growth juggernaut but it accelerated? >> in fact the beginning of the year they are looking at double-digit growth. we're going to see 6
merkel has an election coming up soon. i don't think you'll see germany doing a lot of bailing out the rest of europe. and europe is the number one global concern to this day. if europe doesn't do well, the rest of the world economy is going to suffer. >> gregg: what about japan? is it insolvent already? >> yeah. a lot of people believe so. that will be a big story in 2014. just recently japan announced that they are going to start printed ago lot of money and last week, you saw the...
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record conversation that obama and mediates had and obama promised to be more flexible right after elections but from what you're saying how how how much flexible can he really be or allow himself to be with this republican opposition in congress well i think that's the peculiarities of the american system and in a congressman can freeze consideration of. very important issues just because the beef from his particular state is not being admitted to one country or another for the senate the reasons and. the issues of global importance could be just frozen because of the. interest of one single state in the united states. the interest having nothing to do with the substance of the issue in question. so sometimes the issues of huge importance like the you know the israeli palestinian conflict and the need to settle it being the just for years and years. because of the peculiarity of the american electoral cycles we would prefer. to approach international issues on the basis of the their merit and on the basis of the crying need to do something together was out looking back at your domestic poli
record conversation that obama and mediates had and obama promised to be more flexible right after elections but from what you're saying how how how much flexible can he really be or allow himself to be with this republican opposition in congress well i think that's the peculiarities of the american system and in a congressman can freeze consideration of. very important issues just because the beef from his particular state is not being admitted to one country or another for the senate the...
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if you look at the last two presidential elections that doesn't seem to be the case. are we living now in a new, progressive era? >> in terms of the presidency, i think we are, paul. i'm not sure about the country. barack obama i think is the center left or left wing president since the great depression and i think that what barack obama has in mind to do is indeed to redistribute income from the top downward, not to cut spending, but to increase spending, it's explicit from a 20% of gdp to 25% gdp and rather than cut spending raise taxes as necessary to support that spending and i would say that is in fact essentially the french model. and the question is whether it can support enough growth in the economy. >> paul: taxes are going up, we know that, spending, going up for sure even before the health care law kicks in. so, we are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> aen what happened this year was the supreme court helping this along, you have the justices essentially rewrite legislation chang
if you look at the last two presidential elections that doesn't seem to be the case. are we living now in a new, progressive era? >> in terms of the presidency, i think we are, paul. i'm not sure about the country. barack obama i think is the center left or left wing president since the great depression and i think that what barack obama has in mind to do is indeed to redistribute income from the top downward, not to cut spending, but to increase spending, it's explicit from a 20% of gdp...
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there was an election and president obama campaigned principally on that point and won and i do think we ought to be willing to give on that point. do i think that house republicans have some reason to also expect commitment to spending cuts to balance that. and what disappoints moo he is that speaker boehner and the president made real progress. the president made real concessions going up to some say $400,000 in his negotiations. and speaker boehner was unwilling to give the confidence about the debt ceiling raise that he needed back for them to be able to put together the sort of bigger bolder bipartisan package that would have is done the right thing for our country. here we are at the last moment wondering whether when we in the senate take up the house passed piece of legislation amend it and send it back to them whether they will take it up for a vote before the end of the year and prevent the overwhelming majority of americans seeing their taxes go up before january 1. >> shannon: there on the hill a lot of uncertainty as you wait to see what leaders have been hammering out. a
there was an election and president obama campaigned principally on that point and won and i do think we ought to be willing to give on that point. do i think that house republicans have some reason to also expect commitment to spending cuts to balance that. and what disappoints moo he is that speaker boehner and the president made real progress. the president made real concessions going up to some say $400,000 in his negotiations. and speaker boehner was unwilling to give the confidence about...
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which candidate tweeted this on election night. this election is a total sham and travesty. we are not a democracy. >> candidate? >> it was a candidate. >> in the race? >> i don't think michele bachmann has a twitter. >> no longer in the race and a billionaire. almost candidate. an almost candidate. >> donald trump. >> there you go. >> ahh. >> he was a pretend candidate. he thinks he can do whatever he wants because he had money. >> sometimes he has money. all right. which actor gave us this tweet. you know your party is in trouble when you read this, a, the rape guy lost, b, which one? >> i'm so bad at games. >> ben affleck. >> good idea. actually, this guy is the lead character in a show that is centered around this building. >> alec baldwin. >> yeah. we got a couple of them. >> adam baldwin is the racist one. he shames the baldwin family. >> i hope he walks in and says how did you not know. sthak would be good if alec baldwin walked in. >> he hovers around "30 rock." >> which conservative candidate gave us this one, excuse me, journalist gave this tweet. horrible possibil
which candidate tweeted this on election night. this election is a total sham and travesty. we are not a democracy. >> candidate? >> it was a candidate. >> in the race? >> i don't think michele bachmann has a twitter. >> no longer in the race and a billionaire. almost candidate. an almost candidate. >> donald trump. >> there you go. >> ahh. >> he was a pretend candidate. he thinks he can do whatever he wants because he had money. >>...
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we're just days days before this election. [laughter] all this time you spend in the newsroom, where d.c. this headed in the next few days? >> in a, i guess the good news is i don't know anything more than any of you do. what i would say is what i've been saying, my wife would say this is true for the last six month. i think it's a 50/50 country. it's been a mistake for anybody to protect to quickly it will go one way or the other. it's a 50/50 country. almost apart from other candidates are. there is an even division. and then i will also, i think it may well come down to ohio. it's a critical state, and i believe this is true. i think there are more auto workers living in ohio than living in michigan at this point. it will be very interesting to see how that plays out. i will say this. i think however it comes out, i think these debates have been wonderful for the country. certainly for television but for the country. a week or two before the first debate it was just all over, why do we pay attention? the level of energy and
we're just days days before this election. [laughter] all this time you spend in the newsroom, where d.c. this headed in the next few days? >> in a, i guess the good news is i don't know anything more than any of you do. what i would say is what i've been saying, my wife would say this is true for the last six month. i think it's a 50/50 country. it's been a mistake for anybody to protect to quickly it will go one way or the other. it's a 50/50 country. almost apart from other candidates...
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now, having said that, elections matter. so, we believe that the 250,000 threshold is the appropriate threshold. the president did make an offer, we understand, of $400,000. with a trillion in cuts. accompanying it. that was turned down by the house. the time has come, really, to measure the absence of a deal plus -- against a deal. and i think both of us come down that we have to solve this immediate situation. the danger to our people, to our military, to our nation's security, to our economic base is just too great not to have a solution. so, you know, what makes this government work, is compromise, and, it is when you don't compromise, there is stasis -- >> you say 400,000 you could live with, not happily -- >> isn't that the question i will get asked? where does the money go? let's say it is $400,000. people vote $400,000, pay 39.3. >> chris: which is roughly $600 billion. >> if i'm asked at home, senator graham, what will we do with the money, what will i say. >> it is added to make up the deficit that everyone has bee
now, having said that, elections matter. so, we believe that the 250,000 threshold is the appropriate threshold. the president did make an offer, we understand, of $400,000. with a trillion in cuts. accompanying it. that was turned down by the house. the time has come, really, to measure the absence of a deal plus -- against a deal. and i think both of us come down that we have to solve this immediate situation. the danger to our people, to our military, to our nation's security, to our...
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russia has elections. it is whether another candidate wins whether power is handed over to that candidate. iraq has not passed that milestone yet. what we had in 2011 was a relatively stable iraq, a lot of hopes. unfortunately, the situation has deteriorated politically over the last year. iraq has been less aligned with american interests and more aligned with iran the interests -- iranian interests in the syrian conflict. host: we are taking your phone calls. the lines are open. let us know if you served in iraq. we want to know that and your thoughts on what is happening the phone lines are open. i want to go back to the political situation in iraq. talk about his role today in iraq. before the segments started, he said he is not some hussein. guest: not saddam hussein in the sense that saddam hussein was a brutal dictator that killed thousands. he used weapons against the population to maintain his hold on power. maliki is nothing like that. he does appear to be an autocrat in the making. what is happe
russia has elections. it is whether another candidate wins whether power is handed over to that candidate. iraq has not passed that milestone yet. what we had in 2011 was a relatively stable iraq, a lot of hopes. unfortunately, the situation has deteriorated politically over the last year. iraq has been less aligned with american interests and more aligned with iran the interests -- iranian interests in the syrian conflict. host: we are taking your phone calls. the lines are open. let us know...
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a tough election year. >> it is funny this happens to us at the end of the year. we think this, we do nothing but politics and world events and go did we have any fun on look back on it with the wonderful producers and we are like did we get anything serious done throughout the last year. >> here are some of our favorite moments from 2012. hard to believe. take a look. ♪ good morning everybody. great to see you. >> happy new year. >> this coffee has been here since last year. >> the vests have gone viral. >> this isn't going to go well. >> i can't wait for reichmuth and the bear. >> we'll be back in two and two. >> i'm no marilyn monroe but happy birthday, mr. president. >> vanilla ice wannabe. >> let's do it. >> will it ever stop. ♪ i don't know ♪ if there was a problem ♪ yo i'll solve it ♪ check owl the hook while the deejay revolves it ♪ >> now, you can walk in my shoes. ♪ >> we don't object if you are dancing. >> it is the fox and friends orchestra. >> wait a minute! >> don't go down the stairs. those are stairs! >> clayton, do not go down the st
a tough election year. >> it is funny this happens to us at the end of the year. we think this, we do nothing but politics and world events and go did we have any fun on look back on it with the wonderful producers and we are like did we get anything serious done throughout the last year. >> here are some of our favorite moments from 2012. hard to believe. take a look. ♪ good morning everybody. great to see you. >> happy new year. >> this coffee has been here since...
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>> elections have consequences. i'm going to quote a paraphrase, former chairman of the rnc, haley barbour said, purity is the enemy of victory. and what he was getting at is something we have been saying for quite a while. let's win on the corollaries that we agree upon. we agree upon economic freedom, strong national security. we agree upon the core conservative tenets of individual liberty and individual responsibility. let's not isolate or separate fellow americans because of something like their sexual orientation. >> let me ask you this, then -- >> yeah. >> why not do the right thing? when does winning an election supersede doing the right thing? >> it's principle and pragmatism. it's a combination of the two. let's start with principle. the first three republicans on the r.m.a., the respect for marriage act. the second was richard hanna of new york. long story short is that it's okay, the water's fine, come on in. stand on your principle because i know there's a number of house and senate members that should
>> elections have consequences. i'm going to quote a paraphrase, former chairman of the rnc, haley barbour said, purity is the enemy of victory. and what he was getting at is something we have been saying for quite a while. let's win on the corollaries that we agree upon. we agree upon economic freedom, strong national security. we agree upon the core conservative tenets of individual liberty and individual responsibility. let's not isolate or separate fellow americans because of...
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if you l look at the last two presidential elections, that doesn't seem to be the case. are we living in a new progressive era? >> in terms of the presidency, i think we are, paul. i am not sure about the country. i think what barack obama has in mind to do is indeed to redistribute income from the top downward and not to cut spending, but to increase spending. it is explicit from historic 20% of gdp to 25% of gdp. rather than cut spending, raise taxes as necessary to support the spending. and i would say that is in fact the french model. the question is whether that model can produce enough growth to support jobs in the economy.en >> noen question, jason. taxes are going up. we know that. spending going up for sure even before the health care law kicks in. so we are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. >> right. >> not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> what happened was the supreme court helping this along. t you had the justices essentially rewrite legislation. changing the tax congress passed to declare obama care constitutional w
if you l look at the last two presidential elections, that doesn't seem to be the case. are we living in a new progressive era? >> in terms of the presidency, i think we are, paul. i am not sure about the country. i think what barack obama has in mind to do is indeed to redistribute income from the top downward and not to cut spending, but to increase spending. it is explicit from historic 20% of gdp to 25% of gdp. rather than cut spending, raise taxes as necessary to support the...
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the republicans in the house of representatives, they feel they were elected in 2010 to come here and cut spending. dealing with the tax increases, that's a smaller piece. and that seems to be the focus of these talks right now. getting everybody's hands wrapped around the spending component which again the super committee was supposed to take care of last year, they failed. the budget control act, other provisions, all of these things have failed because nobody wants to give. and that's why it is going to be tough to get this through the house of representatives because these republicans are locked in. they say, look, we have cut some spending here this past year. but it was not cut enough. it was not cut deeply enough. they say hold on, we have already cut. that's the longer heads. getting this through the house will be an uphill climb. >> and statistically, when you look at the surveys americans are dug in on the issue too. they want us to bring our spending under control as well. i want to bring everybody up to speed. i am seeing a lot of activity on my twitter and facebook. what
the republicans in the house of representatives, they feel they were elected in 2010 to come here and cut spending. dealing with the tax increases, that's a smaller piece. and that seems to be the focus of these talks right now. getting everybody's hands wrapped around the spending component which again the super committee was supposed to take care of last year, they failed. the budget control act, other provisions, all of these things have failed because nobody wants to give. and that's why it...
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>> elections have consequences. i'm going to quote a paraphrase, former chairman of the rnc, haley barbour said, purity is the enemy of victory. and what he was getting at is something we have been saying for quite a while. let's win on the corollaries that we agree upon. we agree upon economic freedom, strong national security. we agree upon the core conservative tenets of individual liberty and individual responsibility. let's not isolate or separate fellow americans because of something like their sexual orientation. >> let me ask you this, then -- >> yeah. >> why not do the right thing? when does winning an election supersede doing the right thing? >> it's principle and pragmatism. it's a combination of the two. let's start with principle. the first three republicans on the r.m.a., the respect for marriage act. the second was richard hanna of new york. long story short is that it's okay, the water's fine, come on in. stand on your principle because i know there's a number of house and senate members that should
>> elections have consequences. i'm going to quote a paraphrase, former chairman of the rnc, haley barbour said, purity is the enemy of victory. and what he was getting at is something we have been saying for quite a while. let's win on the corollaries that we agree upon. we agree upon economic freedom, strong national security. we agree upon the core conservative tenets of individual liberty and individual responsibility. let's not isolate or separate fellow americans because of...
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presidential election twenty three cameras up on this roof correspondents throughout moscow and i mean you come across lines throughout the night there's a great night was. the real color was right behind us was me but but so one point when putin came out to show me like crowds way cos they do move it doesn't thousands of people but also celebrating his victory one of the main points the unprecedented protests that took place up to that election work and protest rallies that never really feels like we're actually taking part in the event it was during one of the massive protests rallies in moscow square that it really fifty for the first time when i saw the crowd watching a t.v. truck parked right next to ours in another station and i realized how soon people really turned uncontrollable or was second and they'll come in just as easily chaos rebirthing of people trying to get the political point across in the past twelve months. the best way to do that would be a bag on your head and do some. one thing that was important to get across covering it is the people's political flavors in th
presidential election twenty three cameras up on this roof correspondents throughout moscow and i mean you come across lines throughout the night there's a great night was. the real color was right behind us was me but but so one point when putin came out to show me like crowds way cos they do move it doesn't thousands of people but also celebrating his victory one of the main points the unprecedented protests that took place up to that election work and protest rallies that never really feels...
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opposition leaders are asking for early elections from thousands of their followers. but >> this is only the beginning. they use police forces to send us from parliament. now we are on the streets and fighting for democracy in our country on the streets. >> we are here because we are against this regime and we want democracy to return to macedonia. we want to remove this dictator. resistance is our duty. >> we have gathered to say enough of this and the parliament representatives. >> demonstrations finished peacefully, but resolving this and the former yugoslav republic of macedonia is still far away. >>> russia says that its forces have killed seven suspected militants in the troubled caucasus region. security forces say that a fire fight broke out and is surrounded a building in the capital. they say that rebel fighters fired on them as others were being led to safety. >>> thousands of people protesting against bashir led government in iraq. large demonstrations have been held in the center of iraq. and replaced it to the streets over a week ago when the bodyguards
opposition leaders are asking for early elections from thousands of their followers. but >> this is only the beginning. they use police forces to send us from parliament. now we are on the streets and fighting for democracy in our country on the streets. >> we are here because we are against this regime and we want democracy to return to macedonia. we want to remove this dictator. resistance is our duty. >> we have gathered to say enough of this and the parliament...
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i won, these are the consequences of an election. so, he has not been operating in a deal-making mode, even though he stands before the cameras occasionally and says it. i think he has a better chance to work a deal through the stnt and back it in -- through the senate and back it in through the house. >> where have the republicans bent? they have not bent at all, the president has bent, he has reduced the amount of revenue he is asking for. he he want to cut taxes for small businesses and individuals. he has bent on medicare. so that is not accurate to describe it that way. the president has been there all along. >> we will have to leave it there. thank you so much. i enjoyed you guys with us. we usually like to have a few ladies with us, but that is okay. >> happy new year. >> to you as well. join us tomorrow, i will host the live coverage of a possible plan, a possible plan, to prevent the squauld fiscal cliff, i will have several lawmakers to talk about what is going on. and don't forget, a interview with the president on "meet t
i won, these are the consequences of an election. so, he has not been operating in a deal-making mode, even though he stands before the cameras occasionally and says it. i think he has a better chance to work a deal through the stnt and back it in -- through the senate and back it in through the house. >> where have the republicans bent? they have not bent at all, the president has bent, he has reduced the amount of revenue he is asking for. he he want to cut taxes for small businesses...
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state elect, elizabeth law would allow pilots to bring dpns into the cockpit. the plan would be optional and wouldn't cost anything since teachers would be using their own guns. listen. >> the number one concern for me is public safety in our schools. i don't want our children to be sitting ducks, i don't want our teachers to be sitting ducks and i want to hear any and all ideas. my idea is just one. >> reporter: in nearby utah, it's already legal to carry guns in the classroom, a record number of teachers attended a training seminar last week. teachers are first told to initiate a lockdown, if that fails they want to know how to handle the situation if a gun is needed. while there's no official data on whether gun sales are up in the wake of the sandy hook tragedy, the fbi reports in the process, more criminal background checks this year compared to last and they need more money to conduct the criminal background checks that are required there and they're planning to ask lawmakers for half a million dollars to speed up the process, which used to take a matter
state elect, elizabeth law would allow pilots to bring dpns into the cockpit. the plan would be optional and wouldn't cost anything since teachers would be using their own guns. listen. >> the number one concern for me is public safety in our schools. i don't want our children to be sitting ducks, i don't want our teachers to be sitting ducks and i want to hear any and all ideas. my idea is just one. >> reporter: in nearby utah, it's already legal to carry guns in the classroom, a...
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he and the russian foreign prime minister is ruling in syria untillet election takes place. secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to be back in the office next week. and she fainted and hit her head after being dehidrated from a stomach virus . what some are calling the benghazi shuffle . they are thought to have been relieved of duty . may be switching desks . some congress and joining us now is republican congressman chairman of the house foreign relation committee . trying to get information. of the four employees and were they fired or reassigned or on administrative leave. what have you heard? >> it is a shameful episode for the state department. they are bungling everything relate to bung bung. - benghazi. the americans asked near more security and consulate was over run by al qaeda operatives. and the administration wanted a web of lies of outrage of a video that slammed the prophet muhammad . that was bogus and now the state department purposely misled the american people and saying that four individuals in the state department high level were going to lose
he and the russian foreign prime minister is ruling in syria untillet election takes place. secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to be back in the office next week. and she fainted and hit her head after being dehidrated from a stomach virus . what some are calling the benghazi shuffle . they are thought to have been relieved of duty . may be switching desks . some congress and joining us now is republican congressman chairman of the house foreign relation committee . trying to get...
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and right now, boehner wants to get re-elected speaker, and so he is trying to walk away from the deal as much as possible to not jeopardize the speakership. so he has technically thrown it to the senate. constitutionally it has to go through both houses. >> just constitutional ly. minor detail. >> and boehner is constitutionally dammed because he is getting out of it and burned too much. so if reid and mcconnell can get through the deal that is not filibustered, they have to amend a bill in the house that extends the tax cuts for everybody, and gut that bill, because it has to emerge from there, and then fill it, and hope and pray that boehner can find 30 republicans to vote for it. >> that is the story that you feel when the president is saying that ordinary american citizens can not understand what is happening here and why we can't when there is such broad agreement that we don't want taxes to go up on households under $250 and social entitlements that we need there, and we can't get an agreement. stay there, everybody. i want to get truth out of one member of congress, and why? be
and right now, boehner wants to get re-elected speaker, and so he is trying to walk away from the deal as much as possible to not jeopardize the speakership. so he has technically thrown it to the senate. constitutionally it has to go through both houses. >> just constitutional ly. minor detail. >> and boehner is constitutionally dammed because he is getting out of it and burned too much. so if reid and mcconnell can get through the deal that is not filibustered, they have to amend...
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the foreign minister was just talking about the leader of the syrian opposition who was elected just recently so without debate or without the will to negotiate and compromise both russia's foreign minister and international envoy on syria said that it's up to the international community to try to persuade both sides to get to sit down to the negotiations stable but according to russia's foreign minister most western states have obviously taken the side of the opposition are and are actually persuading it to continue fighting by giving it more political and financial support while violence . she continues to ask oh wait there have been more terrorist attacks rebels have been also targeting government. troops while government forces have also been responding with more shelling. for your pissing off thanks for that update. but iran's a navy has deployed in the strait of hormuz a key shipping route carrying one fifth of the world's oil showcasing terence military capabilities with maneuvers device to test combat ships submarines reconnaissance new mid range missile iran has repeatedly w
the foreign minister was just talking about the leader of the syrian opposition who was elected just recently so without debate or without the will to negotiate and compromise both russia's foreign minister and international envoy on syria said that it's up to the international community to try to persuade both sides to get to sit down to the negotiations stable but according to russia's foreign minister most western states have obviously taken the side of the opposition are and are actually...
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. >> clayton: do you buy the charles krauthammer argument, the president was aware after the election he wanted to create a civil war in the republican party and to charles point he did that? >> yes, i think this obviously was to drive a wedge between the house conservative republicans and house capitulationist republicans and of course between the senate republicans and the house republicans. when the ball is in harry reid's court this is not a good thing for conservatives and what's going to happen now between today and tomorrow is, if you've got mitch mcconnell and harry reid sitting down, never a good thing and apparently, trying to come up with income tax thresholds, and if they don't come up with something, again, that wedge gets driven further and obama can sit in the cat bird's seat and blame, blame, blame republicans for their obstructionism. >> dave: quickly, you think a deal gets done, a threshold say around a half million dollars, unemployment gets extended and very little cuts, is that basically what you think happens here? >> i think that's right. i think that's the basi
. >> clayton: do you buy the charles krauthammer argument, the president was aware after the election he wanted to create a civil war in the republican party and to charles point he did that? >> yes, i think this obviously was to drive a wedge between the house conservative republicans and house capitulationist republicans and of course between the senate republicans and the house republicans. when the ball is in harry reid's court this is not a good thing for conservatives and...
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and what was really remarkable is by time election day rolled around, the election had almost become a referendum on mitt romney. gwen: yeah, funny how they turned that around. after it was all over, a lot of the things we didn't believe during the campaign, the obama people said oh, we figured this out. we know who our voters are. we know where to spend the money. we thought they were boasting. and it turns out they were right. >> the one thing, really, i think defied everybody's expectations is what the obama campaign said they were going to do, was that they were going to turn out an electorate in 2012 that looked very much like the electorate in 2008, that they were going to get huge numbers of african americans and young people. that they were going to mobilize the hispanic vote. a lot of republicans couldn't believe these polling numbers. there were so much talk of skewed polls. after the election the romney campaign said they just couldn't believe that the obama operation was capable of doing this. >> karen, to what extent do we think that the electorate that they produced in
and what was really remarkable is by time election day rolled around, the election had almost become a referendum on mitt romney. gwen: yeah, funny how they turned that around. after it was all over, a lot of the things we didn't believe during the campaign, the obama people said oh, we figured this out. we know who our voters are. we know where to spend the money. we thought they were boasting. and it turns out they were right. >> the one thing, really, i think defied everybody's...
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the election is over and he won. i didn't vote for him but he won, he got more votes so john boehner said okay we will give you the 800 billion north dakota revenue but let's talk about the $2.4 trillion in cuts and he won't give us any cuts. so we do we need to sit down and talk and talk and talk. either make good on your campaign pledge and deliver the $2.4 trillion in cuts. the house said we will give you the revenue you campaigned on but we will not go along with higher taxes and more revenue and more spending if we are not going to deal with the fundamental drivers of our debt. >> greta: you said three dollars in cuts for every dollar raised in revenue. i decided to fact check you all and i did find, someone found it for me on april 13, 2011 the white house released includes this paragraph. seek a bald approach for bringing down the deficit with $3 in cuts for every one dollars in tax reform that contributes to deficit reduction. they said this is consistent with the bipartisan commission approach. yes, he did s
the election is over and he won. i didn't vote for him but he won, he got more votes so john boehner said okay we will give you the 800 billion north dakota revenue but let's talk about the $2.4 trillion in cuts and he won't give us any cuts. so we do we need to sit down and talk and talk and talk. either make good on your campaign pledge and deliver the $2.4 trillion in cuts. the house said we will give you the revenue you campaigned on but we will not go along with higher taxes and more...
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the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and it needs to stop so i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody will get 100% of what they want but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy are not adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. all right? thank you very much, everybody. >> mr. president? adam: rich, we just have a few minutes to wrap this up. he is leaving it in the hands of harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they craft a package that members of speaker boehner's caucus would approve? that is what it is going to take, isn't i >> it is. and it could be possible, adam. e next 24 hours will let us know. we have a reedout from our colleague henry, according to a senior white house official exactly how this meeting went down. this according to a white house official. basically the president said, you know, look if the speaker can not come up with some type of compromise, or republican and democratic leaders can not come up with so
the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and it needs to stop so i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody will get 100% of what they want but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy are not adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. all right? thank you very much, everybody. >> mr. president? adam: rich, we just have a few minutes to wrap this up....
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the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repeat, congress, you are terrible at your jobs. i really don't like working with you. we're going to talk a bit later in the show about everybody hates congress and what we can do about that. but as much as the public hates congress, you really get the feeling that congress' approval rating among president obama is in the neighborhood of negative 75,000 percent. and yes, numbers geeks, not a real number. but he seems really tired of working with these people. but there is a way in which congress, and particularly congressional republicans may actually be helping president obama out right now. everybody's always known two things about the cliff. you're almost certainly going to get more taxes in a deal after you go over than in a deal before you go over it. that's because after you go over the cliff, taxes already go up for everybody. so anything you do, any reasonable deal congress reaches, it will be a big tax cut. but the other thing about the f
the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repeat, congress, you are terrible at your jobs. i really don't like working with you. we're going to talk a bit later in the show about everybody hates congress and what we can do about that. but as much as the public hates congress, you really get the feeling that congress' approval rating among president obama is in the neighborhood of negative 75,000 percent....